tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post1453144453528745455..comments2023-10-02T01:11:04.783-07:00Comments on Mahound's <br>Paradise: The Mercy Quotient: Did Pope Francis Just Implicitly Condemn Vatican II and the New Mass?Oakes Spaldinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-64012985677278571342015-05-09T16:13:24.979-07:002015-05-09T16:13:24.979-07:00'However much I make the point of a story stan...'However much I make the point of a story stand out like a spike, there will always be some who insist on impaling themselves on something else....' G.K. ChestertonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-66798434330058852452015-04-18T09:30:58.384-07:002015-04-18T09:30:58.384-07:00I don't think so. I think I got the point lou...I don't think so. I think I got the point loud and clear. Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-67827555791524797552015-04-18T08:31:20.555-07:002015-04-18T08:31:20.555-07:00With respect, I think you missed the point.With respect, I think you missed the point.Oakes Spaldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-3980992734566162422015-04-17T19:53:28.907-07:002015-04-17T19:53:28.907-07:00Yes. But I think a REAL vocal proclamation of merc...Yes. But I think a REAL vocal proclamation of mercy would convert people. We get absolute mercy every week in the confessional. That's an amazing thing. An incredible thing. What Christian wouldn't want that? But today, not only is that message not proclaimed to others. But even most Catholics have forgotten it, if they were ever taught it in the first place.<br /><br />I used to wrongly think abortion was merely one of many Christian issues--important perhaps but not central. It's tempting to not make it a "single issue" that overwhelms the "entirety of the Christian message" or whatever. But if life isn't central, then Jesus died in vain.Oakes Spaldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-42054096617287927172015-04-17T19:43:00.109-07:002015-04-17T19:43:00.109-07:00Very interesting! The prisoners' dilemma expla...Very interesting! The prisoners' dilemma explains much. I remember that story, but it seems to have sort of died. And I had forgotten the excommunication part. Who can see what happens next? Though I'm afraid we're in for more interesting times.Oakes Spaldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-40787670712753298572015-04-17T19:38:06.411-07:002015-04-17T19:38:06.411-07:00That's exactly, right.
To look at it charitab...That's exactly, right.<br /><br />To look at it charitably, the idea was, if we become more like Protestants, we'll pick up some of that demographic. That project of course utterly failed. Protestants are really good at doing Protestant things (obviously). And if anyone wants that (and there are many good reasons to), they're going to want the real thing, not a bad imitation or worst of both worlds mix.<br /><br />There is nothing more faith destroying than a bad Catholic New Mass. Nothing.<br /><br />I wasn't converted to Catholicism by attending those affairs. I was converted by Protestants who lived their Christian faith. One of them was the woman who is now my wife.Oakes Spaldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-67951455230646984722015-04-17T14:46:36.546-07:002015-04-17T14:46:36.546-07:00The V2 rise of abortion- which is totally without ...The V2 rise of abortion- which is totally without mercy, and no corresponding proclamation of justice, seems to me to outweigh all of the arguments that the modern church isn't merciful enough- by ignoring humanity forfeiting its future through genocide of future generations, still the mere but vocal proclamation of mercy hasn't achieved any improvement in church attendance, conversions or love of God. MSchauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16362718177205485827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-18700719448919039182015-04-17T12:12:00.105-07:002015-04-17T12:12:00.105-07:00You judge mercy by how many times the word is used...You judge mercy by how many times the word is used??!! Wow. Does the word "Pharisee" mean anything to you?Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-14446838730842062812015-04-17T10:14:15.551-07:002015-04-17T10:14:15.551-07:00As a none Roman Catholic who nevertheless is a som...As a none Roman Catholic who nevertheless is a somewhat informed observer it does seem to me that Vatican II did fundamentally de-anchor the RCC from its identity. This happened earlier in the various magisterial Protestant churches with critical liberalism and the ecumenical movement. <br />And she threw away many of her best arguments against traditional Protestants. KingofElflandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01725335915535937373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1373152433565591514.post-4699171453938960842015-04-17T04:52:28.914-07:002015-04-17T04:52:28.914-07:00Brilliant!
Here's one I did before the last c...Brilliant!<br /><br />Here's one I did before the last consistory. <br /><br />https://sarmaticusblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/16/t-230-nothing-to-see-here-move-along/<br /><br />Numbers, even when used as relative values, don't lie.S. Armaticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02140609867389147240noreply@blogger.com