We Just Posted a Fake Video, Here's Another One: Pope John Paul II Takes Batting Practice

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Nice swing

An hour ago we posted a video purporting to a show public demonstration in London celebrating the Paris terror attacks. We ran it because it was posted on a reputable blog and squared with the support for ISIS present among a substantial minority of Muslims in Britain, especially young Muslim males.

However, it is a false video. It's not fake per se, but rather records a recent demonstration celebrating the arrival of the Indian Prime Minister. The tell was when the source blog took it down a few hours after running it, and I then noticed a comment on the source post pointing out its actual origin. Simultaneously, a Google+ friend pointed out oddities in the video that I should have been more hip to.

I'm calling attention to this (as opposed to merely deleting the post and moving on) because I HATE IT when other blogs do that with no explanation. That's not a criticism of those blogs, only a report of my own feelings. If something is untrue, I want to know definitively that it is, and if possible, why. Simply deleting the post often leaves a sort of mystery.

So, here's the video, allegedly of a recent pro-ISIS demonstration in broad daylight in front of a busy Tube station (but we now know it is not):

MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD CELEBRATE THE ISLAMIC VICTORY (?) IN PARIS, FRANCEI will kill these f***ers one day. This celebration happened in London, UK this afternoon by Pakistani Muslims.
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Kim on Saturday, November 14, 2015

So, apologies. In three-hundred and three posts, this is the second time we've done this. And we've come close on a few more occasions. But two is too many. We'll try to be more careful in the future.

Enough.

Are you ready for some fun? Here is "Pope John Paul II" taking batting practice. When a first saw it a month ago, I believed it for a few seconds then called it. The figure does look like an early Pope John Paul II, and we know that he was an athlete.

But the tell for me was the year. 1987 was after the assassination attempt, and tragically, the Pope was never physically the same after that. But a credulous viewer might also ask how a Polish prelate learned how to swing a bat so well. And if one listens to the audio track, there's also the matter of the "Vatican softball league" that the Pope was often (though not always) "too busy" to play in.

But still, it's fun. If it's not true, it should be. When popes were men...

Enjoy!

On Protocol, Reverence and Chivalry

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I'm writing this because it often annoys me when bloggers pull posts and don't explain why.

On September 6, Crown Heights.Info ran the above picture with this commentary:

"Picture of the Day: Rivkah Would Not Bow"

Israeli President Reuven Rivlin paid a visit to Pope Francis in Rome, accompanied by his personal secretary Rivkah – an Orthodox-Jewish woman. When a person usually greets the pope, they shake his hand and bow down. But when Rivkah’s turn came to greet the pope, she explained to him that for religious reasons she could not shake his hand, nor could she bow down since he was wearing a cross. The pope then covered his cross with his hand, and bowed down to her!

I put up a post on this. You probably missed it as it was up for only a few hours in the middle of the night. I didn't really have a problem with the bowing thing (for some of the reasons given below) but I was disturbed by the alleged covering of the cross. However, two Catholic commenters quickly wrote these comments:

Probably just held on to it so it didn't sling into his face. But who knows? 

I have worn medallions when bowing to a lady; I always cover it (whatever it is) with my hand so it doesn't hang and look silly while bowing . . . and I might add . . . A gentleman respects and honors all ladies both for the love of his lady and in honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God.

Ironically, in my post I had praised Rivkah Ravitz for honoring God. I said we needed her on our side. See, that's the kind of chivalrous, ecumenical guy that I am. But I criticized Pope Francis for (allegedly) denying Him, and then spent a few righteous paragraphs talking about martyrs. Of course, the comments made me realize that I had been too hasty on the second part. So, I pulled the post.

Angelqueen initially linked to my post, but then pulled it in turn, in addition linking to this quasi-debunking at Israel National News:

'Rivka Didn't Bow to Pope' – the True Story 

Heroic tale of haredi woman in presidential entourage who refused to bow to pope was a little overstated. 

(By Gil Ronen, 8 September 2015) 

Various news sites and social media rumor mills have been spreading a photo of a haredi woman standing grim faced in front of Pope Francis, and telling a story to go along with it. Sopposedly, the woman – Rivka Ravitz, Bureau Chief of President Reuven Rivlin – refused to bow to the pope, because of the cross that was hanging from his neck. 

The pope even apologized for the cross and was quick to hide it, according to the tale, after Ravitz explained that she was halachically forbidden to bow to him because of the cross. 

The story appears to be largely fictional, however. 

The photo, taken by the Government Press Office during President Rivlin's visit to Rome last week, does show Rivka Ravitz, and it does show the pope bowing to her. However, according to a source in the President's Residence, Ravitz did bow to Francis a moment before the photo was taken. 

Ravitz – the daughter in law of Rabbi Avraham Ravitz ztz”l, a longtime Knesset member – does not shake hands with male diplomats, because she is observant of halakha (Jewish law). 

“All diplomatic personages are made aware of this,” explained the source. “Instead of this there is a small bow. The pope received the same message through his aides. The president told him who she is and said that she is the daughter in law of a great rabbi, as in any presentation of an entourage, and she bowed as she always does on these occasions.” 

"It is not true that the pope covered the cross with his hand or apologized, nor is any of the other things having to do with relations between Judaism and Christianity, which have been attributed to the meeting,” the source said. “The pope said nothing and he gave the same bow generally throughout the presentation of the entourage.”

Thanks to Seattle Kim and Anthony Emmel for having good sense, and Cyprian, an administrator at Angelqueen, for sussing out the possible problems and ambiguities of the original description, and for finding the Israel National News article.

But the commenter below the Angelqueen piece (and not associated with Angelqueen) who called Ravitz a "feminizi" and an "ugly . . . b**ch" who should have been "slapped . . . in the chops",  and me "womanish" and a pro-Vatican II "schismatic" for pulling the post and apologizing (on Angelqueen) knows exactly where he can go.

You know, it's that place that doesn't accept Southern gentlemen.

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On Kim's implicit recommendation  here's a re-link to that fascinating, moving and even funny account (for both Jews and Christians) of another Pope receiving a Jewish visitor, see the testimony of Theodore Herzl in When Theodore Herzl Met Pope Pius X.